One aspect is getting the team and the other is adjusting it as they scale, right? Any tips on that? You touched upon it. Yeah, no. I'm a big believer that it's horses for courses. Yeah. And you know different stages of the company do need different skill sets and it doesn't mean everything changes. Like I said, some people will scale up. That's great. Hopefully you will scale up as a founder and others will scale up, but they definitely... if you have a team of 10 direct reports, it's very likely only 5 will scale and 5 won’t and maybe 10 is even a large number because when you start you probably have 4 or 5. 2 or 3 might scale up, 2 or 3 won't scale up. How do you handle people who don't scale up? It doesn't mean that you have to ask them to go. It means you could give them different roles and in some cases you have to ask them to go after five years. How do you handle that with tact? With you know, dignity and done in a proper manner and that's pretty much what you have to do because the you know, litmus test for you is really what's right for the company and so you've got to be very dispassionate about that. What does the company need? Can the company do better? And this link to this is the value of having advisors and a good board. And if you can't get people onto the board because you know, there are other issues people have on board but have some advisors who you can share everything threadbare. This is happening in the company. This is what's going on. You can get some advice. Finally, you gotta take the call. But I think it really helps to have a sounding board. Okay, definitely. Last question, I’m going back to the IPO story. You believe that there's going to be a lot more of these coming the years to come. So for the founders who are listening and hopefully thinking about that. What are the things that they need to focus on today for their business over the next 2-3 years... Yeah, yeah. ...if they want to go public. Yeah, and I really hope many more will go public. I think it's good for the market and it has a ripple effect for sure and I think the Indian markets are also definitely opening up and even SEBI has been changing rules, making it easier to list etc. and you know, even DVRs and many things are happening which is really good for the market. I think fundamentally you got to build for scale which is that you're not building just enough to IPO. The IPO is not a end goal. The IPO is not a summit. It is Mount Everest. The IPO is base camp, and that's the right metaphor. It's really base camp in climbing and basically it means you’ve got somewhere, it's an important place that you’ve reached, but now you go ahead for... So it actually gives you the ability to do much more but it's not an end in itself for the founder. You can take some chips off the table, which is a good thing to do. Nothing wrong with that but you fundamentally have now got a lot more fuel and you are now a company in the public domain, a mature company. You have the ability, you’ve raised cash, you can raise more cash and you know, that's what your investors expect you to do and anyone…. a retail investor can buy a hundred shares in your company or one share or someone can come in by 10% in your company if they want to so you can do a lot more. So I think entrepreneurs have to keep that in mind that I have reached here. This is a very important, you know level that we have reached, a stage in the company's life. But now this is only setting the stage for the next level to go to so, I think that's really important as you think about IPO. So I would encourage all entrepreneurs when they are deliberating an IPO to ask themselves a very, you know, odd sounding question, but really why do you want to IPO? You know, one of my board members had asked me that question and I found it very odd like what a question to ask... but it was actually a very profound question. So a really profound question. Why do you want to IPO? Which is you want an exit for yourself probably? Probably, don’t IPO, if you want a complete exit. You want an exit only for your other people? Do you want to look at a sale? Do you want to get a PE fund to come in and help take you to the next level and stay in the private domain? And today that is even more relevant Anand, with the private markets are so deep. Yeah. And today that's possible. It wasn't even possible in the year 2010. So I think that would be really important as you go ahead. So why did you IPO? Same question back to you. Yeah. No, it's I guess indirectly I answered it. I think I was convinced as was Rajesh at that point of time, that the best is definitely yet to come. We are not there, we want to do lot more and an IPO will give us the necessary tool kit and fuel to achieve our dreams. So that was one. Secondly private markets weren't there at that deep. People cut checks of... like our last round pre-IPO from Tiger was 20 million bucks. RIP was 80 million bucks. That's what it was. So I don't think anyone even fathomed someone putting in a hundred, two hundred, three hundred million dollars in a private round. It didn't exist. So I think that was the second and I think at a very personal level there was a big thrill, so it was something which really and maybe it was you know, Sanjeev had gone public. I used to track other companies which had gone public and it was very motivating. I was thinking something like why not? Why can't we do that too? And maybe it's a moment but it's a moment that lasts forever. You know to be at NASDAQ take your company public and there's no there's no bell by the way, It's a buzzer. Yeah, so that's funny. But to give that little IPO speech and then see your stock price, people come in and trade and then stand at Times Square with your you know, they put up pictures of the whole team. We took the whole team, I mean whoever... so people had to pay for their ticket. Yeah. We didn’t pay for anyone. They paid for their ticket, but then when they agreed to, then we paid for their stay, so we were about 20 of us who traveled from here. It was just an incredible day. Awesome, hope many many of the listeners listening here... I hope so too...hope to go take it all the way. And also you touched upon one thing. It's about building something over a decade or a long period of time, you know. Yeah , yeah, it’s durable. You build, you've done all the hard work, create a brand which will last forever. Yeah, and then from Base Camp to Everest, I'm sure you're going on that journey as we speak and the best wishes for the journey ahead. Really appreciate you taking the time. Thanks a lot. Thank you. It's been a pleasure. Thanks a lot.