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Hetal let's talk about your personal life. You did a challenge of reading hundred books in 2018. Why you did this challenge? To be honest I was not a great avid reader and I realized that because of me not reading as much as I should at this stage of life, which I was in, I wanted to take corrective steps which can be significant and game-changing. I did a Google search and I realized that even big people like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos read about 50 books in a year and I said, how can I be better than Bill Gates? So I decided to double my target and decided to read a hundred books in the year. So that's how the challenge got conceptualized. From an execution perspective it definitely was not easy, when you have a full-time job, you know, you have your own daily limitations in terms of being able to read or amount of time that you can spend. But yeah, I mean thank God I was able to achieve it one day in advance. So I finished it on the 30th of December and I had a day to spare. What advantage or benefits did you have from this exercise? You know, it was kind of a life-changing moment because while I was ignoring the element of reading, the literary world or the whole universe of writers and authors and the number of books being published has been on a meteoric rise in the last eight ten years. A lot of authors have started getting a lot of publicity for the good books they come out with and I think a strong reason that is the social media which allows people to be able to talk a lot about what they're reading, site instances over their reading so I was I think very fortunate to be able to come across a genre of user readers or authors in the space of self-help, management, business, autobiography, sports, literature, you know, they were all time great books, which I had not even realize that they existed and I was able to read them, absorb them, invite them and most importantly I've been able to inculcate or include learnings from these books in my daily life, in my interactions with startups or in my running journey, and I think that's been a very significant game changer for me. I feel I'm much better and more learned and I'm more calm and relaxed because of the influence with these books are done on me. Let's talk about running journey which you mentioned, you are an iron man right? Half iron man to be correct. I need to complete the other half next year. Let's talk about that. What motivates you to write? It was a very casual party, which I was at in 2013 September when I met a lady and she was not drinking alcohol and I said, okay, why are you not drinking? She said I'm going to run a marathon, half marathon to be more precise and that's why I am preparing for it. She said, why don't you also run. I've never actually run actively, though I've been very, you know fitness freak and stayed fit all my life, but I never have run long distances. Running 21 kilometers with ADHM, which was two months ahead of me was not an easy task. Though I did a easy calculation. I had five weeks to prepare for it and I just went the following Sunday 5 kilometers, ten kilometers, 14 and 17 and I completed 21 kilometer mark in October, November 2013. My first half marathon and it was a beautiful experience. That started my running journey because it it helped me to find a new element about myself. I realized that it was the fitness activity, which is very easy to do. You just need to find a good pair of running shoes and just walk out and run. While a lot of people prefer to run in groups, which I did that for about six months. I was a member of the Gurgaon Road Runners Club, which really had me to not only learn the finer art of running and improve my running stride and all that it got me a few very good friends as well, which is a part of and my running journey just continued and I kept on signing up for half marathons in different parts of the country. Today I have done over 16 half marathons and six full marathons apart from the Half Iron man, which I completed last year, I did a 50k Ultra Train run in Malnad, which was pretty gruesome in trying and the whole advantage which I have seen from running is I've been able to set higher benchmarks for me in my personal life and work life as well. I've been able to face tremendously challenging situations with all smile and visible face, which I think is got to do a lot with my running where I have faced significant challenges. I've been able to improve my running time, you know, run after run and I think all those contribute back into being a better person being a better human being. I'm very fortunate a lot of my friends, my colleagues, my cousins have been inspired by my running. It was a matter of pride. Last year when I ran in Detroit with my nephew and niece, they ran their first half marathon at the age of 16 and 12 and it was a very satisfying and gratifying moment that you were able to instill something good in someone and they actually benefited from it as well. What's your daily schedule like? I'm an early riser and a late sleeper, which basically means I constrict my number of hours of sleep to 6 or sometimes less than 6, definitely not a good habit and I would not want others to do that. But basically I am high on energy. I'm high on life. I believe I would want to do more things and I would prefer if I could get 48 hours in a day. I started about five forty five six o'clock. I have a mandatory 10 minutes of meditation as the first activity of the day. I prefer doing that in the morning because you know, you're not infiltrated with other thoughts in the work which you have had in the day. After my meditation I hit the gym At about 6:30, I spend an hour and a half in the gym normally which is a combination of cardio and strength core exercises. Breakfast is around 8:30 9:00, which includes reading couple of newspapers. Head for work around 9:00 9:30. And once I'm back I prefer to be back around 6:00 6:30 so that I can spend time with the family have an early dinner around 7:30 8:00, so I still get about couple of hours on reading or watching something interesting on TV, which I'm not very fond of but I prefer staying in touch with the updated affairs so sometimes watching an hour of news or some interesting documentary is something which I look forward to. I typically hit the bed by around 10:30 11:00 11:30, depending on how intense my reading is on that day. How do you fit in you know mentoring and guiding startups with that schedule? So basically I prefer, I read a book last year called Never Eat Alone and I'm very strong advocate of the fact that you should make the most of whatever chances you get in terms of professionally you can use the word networking but if I look at a personal perspective meeting people, right? The idea is that you interact with more and more people, you learn, you share, you get your ideas clarified, you will get your ideas ratified, so I try and spend as much time with my startups, you know, over a meal, over a coffee, over a call with them over the weekends, you know, basically my off times are dedicated towards startups as much as possible. What habits you attribute to your success into? I think I would probably want to attribute a lot to the learnings which I got from my father. He's an extremely learned man and he has got very strong understanding and lot of clarity on life, which he has been kind enough to imbibe in me. Being very clear in terms of integrity, having a strong focus, being very particular about planning, I think those are certain elements which have been very straight focus in life. I have a never-say-die give up attitude where I tend to hold onto myself even in tough situations. I'm very positive about life. I have a very positive view about life, I believe in an involved world where I believe taking people around together, which was instrumental in my leadership roles in the companies were about where I would rather sit with them rather than sit in isolated cabin because it helps to be able to get that team feeling in in place as well. And I never undermine and I never look at myself as being complete. I am always open for learnings because I believe that we live in a transient world. And it is always important to keep your eyes and ears open for more inputs. What challenges or hardships have you faced in life, which most of us don't know about? Well probably you will still not know about it after the podcast. In terms of challenges I think if I was supposed to call out, I think the catching up with a technology wave was a challenge for me initially, I realized that I didn't know as much I needed to know and I think it required a lot of hard work to be put in. My running journey has had its own set of challenges. I've had injury couple of times in either legs which have put me off from running for almost 3 to 6 months, which was quite a big challenge to face. And from a growth perspective we all face challenges in work life, where we would like to have done more than what we did. We would have probably wanted a higher designation and all, but I am a strong believer of looking further and not looking back. I don't look at those as regrets. I look at those as opportunities, which were destined for me to be that way and I'm positive about things going forward that I have that ability to be able to face future challenges as well with lot of courage and with a smile on my face. What were those times in your life when you were lost? Would you like to share that? Interesting question. So I think there was a strong decision making point which I had to make when I had to decide whether I come back to India from Japan having spent almost 10 years in that beautiful country. It was not easy. Japan remains one of the best places to live from family-life perspective, from a work-life perspective, people and culture perspective, it was a big challenge to come back to India, you know, give up that life of so-called comfort which which was there in Japan and to face the acrimonious challenges of a growing country like India. Way back in 2010 we didn't have a metro, we didn't have public transport in the city like Gurgaon. It was the place to be because of the growing economy and with the way startups were booming in India. While I did feel feel lost initially it was great to be at the right place at the right time. Because now I look back the last nine years which I've spent in India have been phenomenal from a personal growth perspective, I made phenomenal number of friends and learnt a lot professionally and personally and so I think yeah, well that was a challenge at that point of time. I think I'm much better off now than I was when I decided to move back from Japan. What books have you read recently? I'm reading a very interesting book by Thomas Friedman called Thank You For Being Late. It's interestingly titled. It talks about how to face the world with accelerating growth and how do you face up to those challenges. It's a phenomenal read. I just finished another phenomenal book by Yuval Noah Harari, 21 lessons for the 21st century. He's become very famous because of sapiens but his third book is also equally phenomenal in terms of the points which he has advocated of what are important to be successful in the 21st century and would strongly recommend these books as well. What books in your life have shaped you as a person? Very interesting question. So I would probably call out the book by Rolf Dobelli, a good life. It is something which really helps you to think on life in particular. I would definitely want to call out books Let's share about who your mentors have been in life. And how do you attribute your success to them. How they affect people. So I would definitely want to take my father's name, he's been an instrumental guiding light for me in my personal and professional career. He's constantly been able to give me a lot of thoughts and inputs on how to progress in life. At the professional front I would want to call out. Mr Azim Premji, Wipro was not only my first company it was my first exposure to the corporate world and the strong philosophies of integrity and honesty which were underlying elements for success for Wipro way back in 1999 when I joined hold true even today. I truly respect and admire his capabilities, his vision which has been something which I have been able to learn from a lot. I would definitely want to call out Mr Ramesh Himani He was one of my managers and leader in Wipro. I learnt a lot from his working style, which I feel has been a great learning for me as well.